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Is it possible to do this, i can only see that it supports POP3 and IMAP

Currently not supported. If your account was grand fathered and you can access Hotmail in Outlook Express, try backing up the .iaf file and import into Windows Mail and see if that works, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Henry Jensen" wrote in message > Is it possible to do this, i can only see that it supports POP3 and IMAP

Very true - there's also Windows Live Mail Desktop which should be a nice addition to the Windows Live family, enabling Windows Live Mail to be run in a seperate application on your desktop like Outlook.
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Currently not supported. If your account was grand fathered and you can access Hotmail in Outlook Express, try backing up the .iaf file and import into Windows Mail and see if that works, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Henry Jensen" wrote in message Is it possible to do this, i can only see that it supports POP3 and IMAP

I read something about that Live Mail app not being ready by the time Vista ships. I can't imagine that Microsoft would let this out the door with no support for Hotmail..... Or maybe they'll add Hotmail support back into Windows Mail, as is it now in Outlook Express?
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Very true - there's also Windows Live Mail Desktop which should be a nice addition to the Windows Live family, enabling Windows Live Mail to be run in a seperate application on your desktop like Outlook.
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Currently not supported. If your account was grand fathered and you can access Hotmail in Outlook Express, try backing up the .iaf file and import into Windows Mail and see if that works, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Henry Jensen" wrote in message Is it possible to do this, i can only see that it supports POP3 and IMAP

Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)
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--- Original message follows --- "Glenn Blinckmann" wrote in message

I read something about that Live Mail app not being ready by the time Vista ships. I can't imagine that Microsoft would let this out the door with no support for Hotmail..... Or maybe they'll add Hotmail support back into Windows Mail, as is it now in Outlook Express?
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Very true - there's also Windows Live Mail Desktop which should be a nice addition to the Windows Live family, enabling Windows Live Mail to be run in a seperate application on your desktop like Outlook.
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--- Original message follows --- "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Currently not supported. If your account was grand fathered and you can access Hotmail in Outlook Express, try backing up the .iaf file and import into Windows Mail and see if that works, no guarantee. -- -- Andre Windows Connect | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Henry Jensen" wrote in message Is it possible to do this, i can only see that it supports POP3 and IMAP

WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

Thanks :o) I just don't see the point overall, they may as well put Windows Live Mail Desktop in Windows Mail, or just have no Windows Mail and replace it with the WLMD!
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--- Original message follows --- "DGuess" wrote in message

WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

WLMDb is ad supported.
Windows Mail is not. The OE MVPs asked that either they fix Hotmail or remove it (me me me). When there became a problem with WebDAV and spammers, it was easy to remove rather than try to fix it. WinMail won't be updated like WLMDb will (shades of OE).
Since it is ad supported, it will bring in revenue for added features which will be something that can happen sooner than later (i.e wait till the next big update that we've become used to seeing).
Since it's part the of Live project, as new things become popular, they'll be adding them unlike what we've seen in the past with Outlook Express or will see with Windows Mail. Seems like I'm repeating myself here in comparison of the products.
As new features are added, the user will have to download the newer package (complete) and not a patch or upgrade which I think makes it a bit better in the overall run of the product. One wouldn't have this or that patch and not that one and such.
Since it will have revenyue to back it up, it means there will be a team on it all the time just sitting back and adding goodies. If you look at the list on the blog (http://spaces.msn.com/MoreThanMail/ you'll see a comparison list. There will still be a lot of features from Outlook Express that are still there (NNTP for instance, mesage rules, etc) along with a host of new items and the nice thing is, those new things can grow.
So we've still got some things from the past OE along with an updated database similar to but not like Windows Mail (since this can be run on XP, there will be Vista items that won't be in there), along with some things not in either one.
I think this will, reguardless of ads, still be a hellacious mail client.

"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Thanks :o) I just don't see the point overall, they may as well put Windows Live Mail Desktop in Windows Mail, or just have no Windows Mail and replace it with the WLMD!
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--- Original message follows --- "DGuess" wrote in message WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

Hello!
"DGuess" wrote in message

WLMDb is ad supported.
I think this will, reguardless of ads, still be a hellacious mail client.

Hellacious? http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/index.pperl?date=19971112
Cheers, Roman

It just proves how much MS *loves* repeating themselves, reinventing the wheel, and redundanting their own products to clutter *your* life...
If things are going like this, I'd pick a Vista *without* Windows Mail. But I support your idea. I really rather have Windows Mail instead of Live Mail Desktop.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" :%23K0Mk7nSGHA.5736@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Thanks :o) I just don't see the point overall, they may as well put Windows Live Mail Desktop in Windows Mail, or just have no Windows Mail and replace it with the WLMD!
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--- Original message follows --- "DGuess" wrote in message WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

I've read everyone's comments/views and this is my view: I would rather see Microsoft focus on delivering one really good e-mail client - Windows Mail - which supports MSN Hotmail/Windows Live (WebDAV), POP, IMAP etc.
Before this, Microsoft's e-mail client - Outlook Express vs. Outlook - branding/"nomenclature" had been a considerable source of confusion for many. And let's not forget the IM clients - Windows Messenger vs. MSN Messenger (now Windows Live Messenger) etc.
So, I was glad when Microsoft dropped the "Outlook Express" branding in favour of "Windows Mail" (for Windows Vista). However, they're back to confusing everyone again with Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta vs. Windows Mail...
As for Windows Live Mail Desktop being an ad-supported client, what about Outlook Live, MSN Hotmail Plus, MSN Premium subscribers (like myself) who have paid for their ad-free MSN Hotmail (or Windows Live Mail) account?
It really looks like the competition only needs one Thunderbird to sort out this mess - why does Microsoft make this so easy for Mozilla?
Cheers, Ramin
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message

Thanks :o) I just don't see the point overall, they may as well put Windows Live Mail Desktop in Windows Mail, or just have no Windows Mail and replace it with the WLMD!
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--- Original message follows --- "DGuess" wrote in message WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

I KNEW i wasn't the only one to think like that. i hate having 2 messengers on my computer, 2 outlooks on my computer, 2 outlook expresses on my computer, and NOW 2 Live Mails on my computer!!!! 2 MANY!
MS, can you PLEASE look at yourself in the mirror? i can't believe you are such a kid when it comes to marketing your producrts! U have a passion for CONFUSING people dunt ya?
I fully support your view
"Ramin" wrote:

I've read everyone's comments/views and this is my view: I would rather see Microsoft focus on delivering one really good e-mail client - Windows Mail - which supports MSN Hotmail/Windows Live (WebDAV), POP, IMAP etc.
Before this, Microsoft's e-mail client - Outlook Express vs. Outlook - branding/"nomenclature" had been a considerable source of confusion for many. And let's not forget the IM clients - Windows Messenger vs. MSN Messenger (now Windows Live Messenger) etc.
So, I was glad when Microsoft dropped the "Outlook Express" branding in favour of "Windows Mail" (for Windows Vista). However, they're back to confusing everyone again with Windows Live Mail Desktop Beta vs. Windows Mail...
As for Windows Live Mail Desktop being an ad-supported client, what about Outlook Live, MSN Hotmail Plus, MSN Premium subscribers (like myself) who have paid for their ad-free MSN Hotmail (or Windows Live Mail) account?
It really looks like the competition only needs one Thunderbird to sort out this mess - why does Microsoft make this so easy for Mozilla?
Cheers, Ramin
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Thanks :o) I just don't see the point overall, they may as well put Windows Live Mail Desktop in Windows Mail, or just have no Windows Mail and replace it with the WLMD!
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--- Original message follows --- "DGuess" wrote in message WLMDb will support Windows Live Mail, IMAP and POP3.
"Zack Whittaker (R2 Mentor)" wrote in message Hotmail (old) or Windows Live Mail (new) support isn't going back into Outlook Express, and so I'm told, not Windows Mail either. I think that the whole Windows Live Mail Desktop will be the new client for WLMail, but not 100% sure :o)

Buenas noches: *Eric* escribió:

I KNEW i wasn't the only one to think like that. i hate having 2 messengers on my computer, 2 outlooks on my computer, 2 outlook expresses on my computer, and NOW 2 Live Mails on my computer!!!! 2 MANY!

Eric and Ramin, rest well assured that there are more people who think along your lines - however, none of those are in the position to significantly influence Microsoft's naming decisions, unfortunately.
Saludos Roland -- Probleme mit OE? Hier gibt es die Lösungen: <http://oe-faq.de>! "Eine Frau hatte eine Henne, die ihr jeden Tag ein Ei legte. In der Hoffnung, die Henne werde zweimal am Tage legen, wenn sie ihr doppeltes Futter vorwerfe, tat sie dies. Da wurde die Henne so fett, daß sie nicht einmal mehr ein Ei täglich legte." (Äsop)